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Title: [SOLVED] Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 07:51:50 AM
Hey guys,

I am on MSFS2024 version 1.3.19.0, and everytime I try to enable the AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC, I get stuck at 97%.

What do you need from me?

Also, another thing, even though I have AIG in my community folder, I always need to enable the widget.  Why?  Anyway, now it doesn't matter, cause now I am stuck at 97%.

Benny
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 21, 2025, 08:52:30 AM
Quite simple. You are using the 2020 traffic in 2024.

We have an updated AIG Manager that will install update your traffic to 2024 standards. But it is important to follow the instructions very carefully:

https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?msg=420544
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 09:28:23 AM
I am familiar with this thread, and I have done those steps.  AIGTM used to work, but now it doesn't.  Why do you assume I am using the 2020 version?
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 10:51:10 AM
I managed to see errors in the dev mode console when enabling AIGAIM.  Remember this it the latest SU1 version of MSFS2024.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 21, 2025, 10:51:50 AM
Because it says so in the background. If you see there is a big MSFS2020 logo with "AIGOCI AI TRAFFIC". Then I would assume that you used the 2020 traffic directly into 2024.

That's why :)
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 11:03:03 AM
I just did the steps again, and it still says 2020 in the background.  I don't think your assumption is right.  Does it say 2024 for you?
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 21, 2025, 11:13:23 AM
Personally I don't use 2024 ATM. I do have it installed, but for now I'm back in 2020, as it's simply more stable for me.

The time I did use AIG in 2024, I didn't even enabled it. It was automatically enabled and then I just used AIG Traffic Controller to inject the traffic.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 11:27:31 AM
Well, like I said, I just redid the 2024 setup again, and it still shows the 2020 in the title.  So, I don't think this is the issue.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: Kaiii3 on February 21, 2025, 11:48:53 AM
there should be no need to enable it, might be a bug in SU1 Beta...
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 12:05:34 PM
Bug on who?  AIG or MSFS?  I reached out to MSFS and they said it is on AIG.

See - https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/aigaim-traffic-becomes-disabled-when-relaunching-msfs2024/703829

It's my post
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 12:06:26 PM
I think they are misquoting you, Kaiii3
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 21, 2025, 12:13:55 PM
When I installed AIG into 2024 I didn't enabled it at all. It worked straight out of the box when I ran AIGTC. Never did the same in 2020 either. And there it worked fine too without having to be enabled.

I'm almost 100% sure that if you have things on the community folder, you don't need to activate them at all to make them work. Than includes sceneries, planes and so on.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: PretendPilot on February 21, 2025, 12:21:49 PM
My install of AIG in FS2024 does not say "FS2020" beside it, mine says "Community".  No need to enable any part of AIG from within the sim, it automatically works.  I am not using SU1.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: Kaiii3 on February 21, 2025, 12:34:15 PM
we have internal testers on SU1Beta that have not reported any issues..

Remove OCI from the community directory (copy a backup to some other location)
Setup OCI in AIM
Start MSFS24
Does it show as enabled?
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 21, 2025, 07:45:54 PM
It's disabled.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 21, 2025, 09:40:24 PM
Try to run AIG Traffic Controller and see if the AI appears.

That is the only way to see if it actually finds the folder and inject it into the sim. And if it does, then it might not need to be enabled.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 22, 2025, 04:12:30 AM
I am not using AIG for traffic. I am using it for model matching on vatsim.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 22, 2025, 06:54:24 AM
So, these are the errors I am seeing in the MSFS2024 Console:

Error Type #1:
[FuelSystem] Could not create Pump #9 of type Electrical (MainTank3PumpFwd) as the plane's Electrical System doesn't have a circuit at Index 7. Ignoring.
   Aircraft: AIGAIM_Cargolux Boeing 747-400ERF - LX-ECV SeaLife Trust

Error Type #2:
[FuelSystem] Could not match Fuel defined Engine #3 (RightEngine) to any of plane's engine. Id is likely wrong. Ignoring.
   Aircraft: AIGAIM_Jackson Jet Center Pilatus PC-12 - N873PC
[FuelSystem] Could not match Fuel defined Engine #3 (RightEngine) to any of plane's engine. Id is likely wrong. Ignoring.
   Aircraft: AIGAIM_United Aviate Academy Cirrus SR22 - N838EF
[FuelSystem] Could not match Fuel defined Engine #3 (RightEngine) to any of plane's engine. Id is likely wrong. Ignoring.
   Aircraft: AIGAIM_Morningstar Air Express Cessna 208B Super Cargomaster

Error Type #3:
[FuelSystem] Could not find Component 7877999695488118266. Ignoring.
   Aircraft: AIGAIM_Flugschule Hamburg Cessna 172 Skyhawk - D-EOOW

Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: Kaiii3 on February 22, 2025, 04:46:49 PM
those can be ignored
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 22, 2025, 06:38:16 PM
But MSFS2024 is not ignoring, and then the enabling of AIGAIM Traffic hangs.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: Kaiii3 on February 22, 2025, 06:46:14 PM
The errors in the console are related to the cfg files of the AI models, those have nothing todo with the functionality of AIGTC injected airplanes
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 23, 2025, 05:10:35 AM
Fair enough.

How can I resolve my issue?  I am not able to get AIG Traffic to load on Vatsim Model Matching.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 23, 2025, 07:18:00 AM
The reason why I asked if you could try using AIM Traffic Controller was to see if you need to enable it or not.

If it shows up in the sim, without being enabled, the initial issue with the 97% is not an issue anymore and we can continue onwards.

For model matching you need some programs from Vatsim. I'm personally not using Vatsim at all, so I have no idea what those programs are called. I know there are some model matching files on Flightsim.to that will make the model matching easier to get working, so that might be something to look at:

https://flightsim.to/file/23365/full-vatsim-aig-beta-model-matching
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 23, 2025, 11:50:12 AM
I disagree again.  If the module isn't enabled in MSFS2024, then the simobjects cannot be loaded into the sim, even if vpilot has a .vrm file.  I insist, and believe, that the AIGAIM Traffic module must be enabled.  I am unable to enable it.  I suspect it has to do with all those errors I am seeing in the dev mode console.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 23, 2025, 01:57:49 PM
That's why I ask if you just once can try to use AIGTC. Because if it won't inject the traffic or AI, then we can begin to look at why. And that could among other things, be that AIG needs to be enabled. But if the traffic shows up, then AIG don't need to be enabled.

What still makes it strange is that so many have not had to manually enable it in the sim, and it just works when they run AIGTC. But somehow you have to enable it. Why that difference?

And why do your sim shows the 2020 text and others don't do that. That's also one of the things I'm very curious about what is the difference there.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 24, 2025, 06:16:35 AM
So you want me to install and run AIGTC with AIGTM and see if the models load up?

Before SU1, AIGTM was working and enabled without the need to enable it.  The 2020 was always there in 2024 for me.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 24, 2025, 06:33:14 AM
I get no traffic with the AIGTC.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: ben1england on February 24, 2025, 09:40:14 AM
Fixed. I completely removed / uninstalled MSFS2024 and deleted my whole Community folder.  I then proceeded to reinstall MSFS2024 from scratch, and copied my OCI folder from 2020 into 2024 Community folder and reset my simobjects in AIGAIM. AIGAIM is enabled, and I don't need to enable it anymore. Probably, one of the SU1 updates broke it.
Title: Re: Cannot enable AIGAIM AI TRAFFIC in MSFS 2024
Post by: johanfrc on February 24, 2025, 10:04:32 AM
 :yeah:

Best news today! Congrats on getting it to work!

Yeah. 2024 has many issues that makes some strange things. Won't be surprised if it was one of the betas, as they often have messed up a lot of stuff in those back in 2020. Especially because the patch notes often don't say everything that have changed. We have had things for AI  working great (including the betas for a SU) and then with the final release of the SU it breaks. And it's not mentioned at all that they have been doing anything in that area of the game. So sometimes it seems like they are doing something in one area of the game, but it breaks something in another and seemingly totally unrelated.